PrinceChristopher1 Says:
Nov 18, 2008 - I don't think our founding fathers envisioned people with AK-47s, bud. Have a nice day.
PrinceChristopher1 Says:
Nov 18, 2008 - Oh, so you're one of those people who thinks we're free in this country?
EESASTORM Says:
Nov 18, 2008 - Really? Their Crystal balls were on the fritz?No kidding!Of course the ARMIES of the time did not have them eitehr so it is a moot point.I guess they did not think of the internet when they made the 1st ammendment either?What are you a luddite?
EESASTORM Says:
Nov 18, 2008 - America is one of the most FREE countries on the planet! Certainy you can see that? could it be better? Sure thing. But Obama is NOT the way to go to atain it. He is the road to ruin through Socialist ideals.
PrinceChristopher1 Says:
Nov 18, 2008 - The internet does not walk into a class room full of high school kids and blow them away either, now does it? If they guns were not available, what would they shoot with?
PrinceChristopher1 Says:
Nov 18, 2008 - Free? You think you're free? LOL! The government placing all of their japanese citizens in internment camps in 1941 was freedom? Electing politicans who have absolute power over you once they take the throne is freedom? Issuing drafts that have forced people to fight for "freedom" is free? You call working your ass off for $6 an hour, freedom? I call it slavery. You call being arrested because you said something the police disagreed with, freedom? Man, you need to wake up.
EESASTORM Says:
Nov 18, 2008 - Is that really your best attempt at a reply?Come on!All the "GUN CONTROL" you can imagine cannot prevent school shootings.Heck the largest mass murder in Canada was done with 5 gallons of gas and a match!The TRICK my good man is to have a society in which.....get this.PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO KILL ANYONE IN SCHOOLS WITH ANYTHING!It is the degredation of American society that has spawned these creatures you fear.Deal with them and you have a chance.Chase guns and fail.
PrinceChristopher1 Says:
Nov 18, 2008 - You make no sense. I don't think people are going to be stupid enough to stand still while someone soaks them in gasoline and lites a match. God forbid this, but let's see how you feel if your son or daughter is killed in a school shooting. Think about how you would feel knowing that if that psycho had never had access to a gun, that your children would still be alive.
EESASTORM Says:
Nov 18, 2008 - Oh god you are a commie! LOL!That explains plenty!Ok.First 1941 was.....well 1941. Welcome to 2008!Second: You do not have a throne. Your system has checks and balances. As I said it could be better but it is still the best.Third: Drafts......when was the last one? 1970's? Again welcome to 2008. But besides that. Drafts are a logical method to defend a nation which is a colective of people.4th People are not FORCED to work. They CHOOSE to work. Well some are parasites
EESASTORM Says:
Nov 18, 2008 - Are you daft?IT HAPPENED!IT IS NOT A THEORY!In the case in point the CRIMINAL tossed in a can of gas started a fire then chained the doors of a bar the he had been banned from. Dead is DEAD no matter how you get there.Again it is the PEOPLE you need to control not the method.
EESASTORM Says:
Nov 18, 2008 - As to my kids. Well they certainly would not die cowering in the corner WAITING to get shot.Both carry knives on a daily basis and would fight back.Both are acomplished handgun shooters and my daughter is lobbying for the RIGHT to carry her Glock in school.WOE will befall any criminal who tried to attack their school should they be armed.But again we can see what happens in that sort of case in the FIRST Virginia School shooting........the one STOPPED by armed students!
PrinceChristopher1 Says:
Nov 18, 2008 - I was giving example of historic "freedom." All our politicans are today are elected kings and queens. Once they get in, we can't do a damn thing about what they do. They can do whatever they want to us. If we go to war with Iran, there will be a draft, bet on it. Drafts are unconstitutional and makes the US look like more of a hypocrite than it already it. We're out there fighting for "freedom," and our soldiers have a gun at their backs forcing them to fight. You have to work to live, period.
PrinceChristopher1 Says:
Nov 18, 2008 - So, how are you going to control people? I'm sure you've never committed a crime, but there's nothing stopping you from committing one tomorrow. So, how do you propose to stop crime?
PrinceChristopher1 Says:
Nov 18, 2008 - Okay, let me give you an example as to what would probably happen in the situation of your kids. They're sitting in a class, focusing on the daily lesson. Suddenly in about a split second, a gunman opens the door and starts blazing away. You think they're gonna have time to reach for a gun? Hell fucking no. A gunman never says, "Okay, guys, I'm coming in now, get ready."
EESASTORM Says:
Nov 18, 2008 - Funny what you propose has NEVER happened in the history of school shootings.Not to mention the probability of MY kid being the first one shot is very low.That give him/her plenty of time for action.Will it eliminate school shootings (baring no other changes in society) nope. But like the Virginia Law school shooting shows it can limit the damage.The alternative is to die like sheep...Something MY kids will never do.Not to mentiong the very act of arming my kids will limit attack
EESASTORM Says:
Nov 18, 2008 - You cannot STOP crime.YOu can REDUCE it.Make CRIME punishable by REAL jail time or execution.What is needed is to CHANGE society. Rebuild the family.Rebuild mutual respect.Then we have a chance.Controling THINGS is a Net ZERO!
PrinceChristopher1 Says:
Nov 18, 2008 - Well, then you need to vote for Obama if that's what you want. McCain will rebuild NOTHING. He has voted with Bush 90% of the time, he admitted that with his own mouth. But his supporters just don't get it. Like Obama said, don't tell me that we can't uphold the 2nd amendment and keep assault weapons out of the hands of criminals too.
EESASTORM Says:
Nov 18, 2008 - Psst........I am Canadian. As such I cannot vote.However Obama wants to try to keep AKs out of the hands of Criminals by DISARMING the law abidign population.He wants to BAN them.That will ONLY effect LAWFUL people not criminals. That has been proven time and time again.He also wants to BAN CCW programs.Obama is just bad news. End of story.
PrinceChristopher1 Says:
Nov 18, 2008 - Well, it ain't like McCain is a whole hell of a lot better. Infact, overall, McCain is the worst choice.
EESASTORM Says:
Nov 18, 2008 - Well you might think that because you disagree with McCains stance on various issues.That I would grant you as you appear to be a socialist.Now the question is why would AHY thinking peroson vote for Obama.Obama stands for NOTHING.He just spouts off usless platitudes and people fill in their own desires.As such he is a great politician.That also makes him the WORST!He calls for CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE but does not actually come out to say what it will entail beyone taking guns
PrinceChristopher1 Says:
Nov 18, 2008 - And all Bush and McCain do is talk about a bunch of shit that they never fucking do. For 8 years, I've heard Bush and McCain talk about all these great things they're gonna do, but they never have. Bush and McCain are all talk. Obama's plans to change the country are clearly outlined and paid for.
EESASTORM Says:
Nov 18, 2008 - Obama has done NOTHING at all in his carrer....NOTHING!Not a damned thing.Yet now you want to let him RUN your country?Are you daft?He is going to TAX the producers to pay for HIS SOCIALIST ideas. That will doom your nation.
sniper6081 Says:
Nov 18, 2008 - Boooooooo.
roswellNM Says:
Nov 18, 2008 - Yeah, and the NICS check prohibits me from running you over with my car.
EESASTORM Says:
Nov 18, 2008 - The Second ammendment has ZERO to do with Hunting.ZERO.Nadda.It also has NOTHING to do with NEED. Need is not a factor in a FREE Nation.You do live in a free nation right?